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Mcp219

298 comments · +2,207 / −1,512 · rank #1503 of 40,276

Daveyboots: I expect the downvotes are for the factually wrong first sentence, not the aspirational second one.˜Boys will be boys' doesn't imply boys shouldn't grow up, and if anything it is used to point out childish behaviour, not to condone it in adults.

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From what Ive read, no one was doing that. They were just filming people ârescuing❠people off the coast of Africa just in international waters, then ferrying them to Europe - making the people smugglers job easy and making it likely more people will drown.Either way, nobody is even making it difficult to avoid hearing them, let alone forcing you to hear them.

+47−3

I always understood it was meth production rather than consumption that poisoned a house. Curious to know whether it's just the government who thought otherwise or did some landlords end up doing a full meth clean when they knew meth was only consumed and not produced? (And also was the testing clearly distinguishing use from production)

+43−1

Well... I voted NZF to put the brakes on some of the madness that was being proposed pre-election and so far hes delivering (with a few downsides of his own but politics is the art of the possible, not the perfect). And with any luck the shenanigans of this term will ensure a one term government. Short term pain, long term gain.

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Youve got it rather backwards here. Nobody has a right to any particular platform for their speech, that is correct. However, it is the private platforms that have the greater right to be choosy about access. Taxpayers and ratepayers have equal rights to use public facilities irrespective of the beliefs of the listeners or the speakers. If the government (local or national) decides to only allow certain approved viewpoints they are discriminating on the basis of beliefs.To provide some clear examples with historical basis, lets say instead of blocking a conservative speaker they were blocking any non-Anglicans (i.e. picking religions rather than politics). We would then have a state established religion like we did when NZ was established. If they allow all Protestants rather than all Anglicans then we still have a state established religion of non-Catholicism.Blocking political views is similar, in that by blocking part of the political spectrum you skew the whole conversation, and youre forcing some taxpayers or ratepayers to find a platform thats only available for opponents of their views.

+28−1

Labour need to learn from Peters experience before they try pushing back and miss the mood of the country. If they pull their collective heads in they can keep their disagreements private, gain some experience, then work out where theyre happy to have public disagreements. Right now they look like theyre being sent to the naughty corner on a regular basis.

+26−3

People own multiple guns for the same reason they own multiple drill bits or screwdrivers - different tools for different jobs.Meanwhile a register of where criminals can steal guns from doesnt seem like a helpful step.

+25−3

How many columnists does stuff have who dont understand free speech? Whether you or I dislike a speaker or the things they have to say is totally irrelevant. They have a right to hire public facilities on the same terms as people whose political views you agree with. If they use the venue to break the law (as some fear), then they can be arrested. Refusing hire because you think theyll say something illegal is prejudice. Refusing hire because the Mob threatens violence is no better than caving to organised crime.The free speech coalition hasnt expressed a view on whether they agree with the 2 speakers, they are simply defending their right to speak without government interference.

+23−1

âHer position is that Im not allowed to speak❠- any evidence for this? And even if that is her position, the difference between her and Goff is that shes not in a position to stop you. If I spout some nonsense about how certain people (e.g. men, JWs, or ACT party members) shouldnt be able to speak/vote/use public facilities, you can refute me. If I was a mayor and used my power to enforce my views Id be breaking the law. Some people seem to think this is fine as long as they agree with the views in question.

+24−2

In this case I suspect the council would turn down any group that wants 5 months use of the lakefront for something that involves an amplified sound system, or reserving an area and putting in seating etc. No discrimination there.The church applied for a permit, which suggests they want to do more than just meet there with no PA system and talk like you might with a large group picnic.

+22−0

Capital gains are a source of income. Wages are a source of income. Why should only the latter attract an income tax? You can argue for a different rate to reflect the effort and risk involved, or for offsetting losses (since wages are never negative), but fundamentally if youre going to tax income then you should tax all income as long as its efficient to do so.

+26−5

The bible has never blessed all that culture believes even if some people have tried to claim it does. If you don't want the bible to challenge culture, it's easier to throw it out rather than edit it into silence.

+22−4

If two people are religious but don't share the same religious beliefs as the people who use the building they want to perform their religious ceremony in, why should they be given the go ahead?

+19−3

This article starts on one premise then assumes the opposite when answering the question. If youve been invited to visit youve got implicit permission to use their driveway unless told otherwise. A driveway is more like an open doorway, not a closed door. But if theres a gate across it then thats like a closed door - dont invite your vehicle in. If the driveway isnt theirs, or isnt solely theirs then you dont have permission to use someone elses driveway so its no longer the same question.Of course if your car leaks fluids then using the driveway is akin to wearing your muddy boots inside...

+18−2

Yes, in a few years road funding from petrol tax will be borne entirely by those too poor to fund the capital cost of an EV unless the funding model changes. Its bad enough missing out on the lower running costs and lower maintenance costs, but being taxed for not having enough access to capital is pretty rough.

+15−0

Any anthem becomes a dirge if you sing it slowly enough. The â˜dirge issue is unrelated to lyrics or tune, and if our anthem was sung at the tempo Bracken wrote it to be sung at it would be fine.Also, almost every national anthem has a âforeigners out!❠vibe, and many are a call to war. In that regard our anthem is much less xenophobic than most.

+17−2

My work introduced agile for most of what we do, but nobody had to sign new contracts as a result. I don't know why spark is trying to say the contracts are required due to the work change.

+12−0

3 things vegans can do to attract hatred: 1) take a judgemental attitude toward anyone who isnt vegan. 2) Tell people who arent interested why they should become vegan. 3) side with PETA and similar crazies. Avoid those 3 things and you will only have to worry about the people who have had a bad experience with vegans who have done one or more of the above. Unfortunately PETA has already done for vegans what Westboro Baptists have done for Southern Baptists, so there are a lot of people who have had a bad experience.

+16−4

Clinton won the popular vote because she concentrated more on getting voters out in the states she was always going to win. Trump went hard after the states that were going to be close and largely ignored the ones that were in the bag (after the primary).The reason he won overall is not a single factor - thats always going to be an oversimplification. Clinton was a polarising candidate (and insulted a large swathe of the country on the campaign trail), the US already had 8 years of identity politics, Trump tapped a vein of discontent, Clinton is too â˜establishment, the list goes on.

+15−3

Its a bit of an odd one... there are many âpastafarians❠who dont actually believe the core teachings of pastafarianism, but as long as there are some who do then it would have to qualify as a religion. However, that still leaves the colander question as a separate issue. Wearing a colander at all times is not a requirement, so its fair to ask that you remove it for ID photos, even if it doesnt actually obscure any key features in the photo.

+13−1

That's a remarkably flat reading of the bible. The death penalty was in ancient Israel. The New Testament has no suggestion of a death penalty but continues to consider homosexual activity sinful. It really doesn't require mental gymnastics to work out what applies to a pre-Christ Jewish government and what continues to be sinful post-Christ.

+16−5

I think the issue is 5 months of an activity that requires a permit. Open air preaching (aka talking) is allowed in any public space, and gathering in a park is also allowed without a permit. Whatâ's missing from the article is what actually needed a permit. Did they want to put a temporary structure in? Did they want powered speakers? Did they want to reserve a specific spot?

+12−1

Surely they could've predicted a backlash - if everyone in NZ loved this beer we'd still be outnumbered by the number of Americans who like Trump enough to respond. I'm amazed they managed to claw back as far as they did, which suggests they have their own troll army writing good reviews. Moral of the story: Facebook reviews aren't worth the paper they're not written on.

+17−6

Most â˜single use plastic bags get more than one use. Cling film is more likely to be single use, as is most food packaging. Ban those first and worry about banning bags if producer/consumer behaviour doesnt address the problem - and its already having a huge impact. Im pretty sure this ban will cause more problems than it solves.

+21−10

Social media is both faster and more likely to carry a story than traditional media and less likely to thoroughly research it, leading to more stories with a risk of inaccuracies or outright fabrication. Traditional media has responded by publishing faster with less research and now has a similar level of public trust to social media but with a narrower range of coverage. The only solution I see is for news consumers (us) to be more discerning and do our own research.Meanwhile, lying during political campaigns is nothing new, but the lies and truths now travel faster and further.

+13−2

Pacifica: have you reported these unsafe mentally ill people to police? The existing law would cause them to lose their license and weapons then.

+11−0

Some of the congregations have no physical building, and those that do will likely either buy the building, rent it out, or rent another building. In the latter case the diocese will possibly be left with an unused building as a result. The minister will be paid out of the donations of the congregation that will no longer be passed on to the diocese.

+11−1

Aspro2017: thats obviously not what was suggested. The claim was âdrastically reduceâ, not âtotally eliminateâ, and there was no suggestion it was a womans fault. If anything, it was suggesting that men are rejecting condoms for whatever reason, and trusting women to take contraception for their benefit. Another contraceptive option for men - that doesnt involve a physical barrier - may mean more men take responsibility for their own contraception.

+12−2

To summarise: The press are not the enemy of the people unless the people think that the press are the enemy of the people, in which case the people are the enemy of the press, and thus the press is the enemy of the people.Can you see how this isnt going to change any minds?

+13−3

A funeral is primarily to help the living, not to make the deceased feel good. Speaking at a funeral should strike a balance between cherishing the deceased (which indirectly comforts the living), and helping the attendees face the rest of their lives after being confronted by mortality.

+11−2

Thats high risk. NZF probably wont have a large change in support at this stage, but Labour will lose votes to the Greens on the left and NZF/National on the right. Labour could end up out of government entirely and will almost certainly be weaker after a snap election even if the coalition gets stronger.

+9−0

Given that many of Folau's defenders don't share his beliefs, and many who do don't like how he expressed them, I imagine they disagree with WBC but support their right to express their opinion.

+9−0

How? Legal MSSAs basically arent being used in crime. Knowing where the legal ones are supposed to be doesnt help with tracing illegally imported ones OR stolen legally imported ones.

+8−0

Mormons dont believe in the trinity, they cannot assent to the historical creeds of Christianity, they have their own holy book, they dont accept the core teachings of historical Christianity about Jesus and salvation. I dont see how they could be considered Christian by anyone who has looked into it.

+8−1

If you come across 20 goats youll get far more with a semi-auto than any other alternative, and if the goal is primarily pest control then thats the way to go.

+7−0

The meanings of words change over time. What you call feminism is no longer what is understood by the word, and if thats what you mean you now need to put a lot more words around it to explain what you mean. Its a bit like calling someone in a civil union â˜single because â˜single used to mean â˜not married, rather than â˜not in a relationship.

+11−4

In 300AD the Church made a ruling on what would or would not be considered scripture based on what was already in common use and acceptance. A key difference between what is and what isn't in the bible is that the writings that were included were all written in the first century. The earliest gnostic writings are much later and outside the realistic lifespan of any eyewitness.

+8−1

Sawn-off shotguns are for killing people, but theyre already illegal. Most other firearms have a wider range of applications. Any firearm that can take down a deer can probably take down a person too, but that doesnt mean thats what its for.

+7−0

The right to bear arms exists to protect from government abuse. It was codified in the US after a revolutionary war against abusive government. No government is going to voluntarily provide that kind of check on its own power unless the alternative is both worse and likely.

+8−1

It seems people are being denied a venue based on the pre-crime of hate speech these days. If youre going to use hate speech as an excuse you should wait till it actually happens, then shut them down and charge them with the crime. Deciding someone is guilty before theyve even committed the act is just nuts.

+7−0

So when women hit âmid-lifeâ, they change a whole bunch of things, and when men hit âmid-life❠they dont change much, and from this you conclude that women are better at dealing with a mid-life crisis? You may be right, but you could equally say men are better at dealing with mid-life without it being a crisis.

+7−0

In other words, in NZ freedom of religion applies to organisations, not individuals. I'll have to fact check that, but it's pretty concerning if 1.

+6−0

The superhero pantheon (theres a hint there) is essentially polytheism. Apollo, Isis, Venus etc dont worship the other gods, they court/demand the respect of humans, and occasionally intervene in their lives. Superheroes are little different.

+6−0

The real lesson from Roseanne is if you're going to say something that could be interpreted as racist, make sure your views align with the mob. Then your job will be safe. Alternatively make sure you aim your possibly racist remarks at people who not only look Caucasian, but also have only Caucasian ancestry.

+12−6

Equal media and advertising time for the major parties and the crazy parties is madness. If the party doesnt have enough support for their ideas to raise money to advertise their idea, why should our taxes pay for it?

+11−5

First, that's a ridiculous ad-hominem. Age, sex, and race have no bearing on whether an opinion is worth listening to.Second, did you even read the article? It's satire. You shouldn't take it seriously regardless.

+6−0

You occasionally see it in the comments, but Ive never yet seen an article against euthanasia that uses religion as an argument. Despite this it keeps coming up in the articles and comments in favour of euthanasia as though it really was being used as an argument, and often as a way to avoid addressing the actual arguments on offer. Its almost like people have a persecution complex.

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Im an engineer, but Im not a civil engineer, let alone a structural engineer. If we had a massive jump in the number of engineering graduates without increasing the number of civil engineers the construction sector would be no better off. As is often the case, this article fails to recognise that âengineer❠covers a much wider range of disciplines than just civil engineering.One thing is clear from the article though - NZ engineers are valued overseas far more than here. Perhaps if we paid internationally competitive salaries wed retain more in the country.

+7−1

NZ voters choose the makeup of parliament. They don't choose the leaders of the parties, they don't choose what coalitions will form or which parties will be in government, they don't choose who is in cabinet, and they don't choose who is PM, deputy PM, etc.

+6−1

The link here between minimum wage or average wage and living wage makes no sense to me. If the living wage is a real measure of how much it costs to live then surely it would be tied to inflation but have no direct tie to other income measures. It doesnt cost more to live just because other people are paid more, it only costs more to live if the things you need cost more.

+5−0

If tariffs are applied on both sides, European manufacturers will sell more in Europe, and American manufacturers will sell more in the US.Sellers will increase their local market share and decrease their export market share. Whether they win or lose depends on which market is bigger.Buyers lose because they face higher prices, but that may be offset by lower taxes elsewhere and/or more local jobs meaning more income to buy with. In general buyers are more likely to lose (or stop buying and realise they donâ't miss it), but it depends on other factors.

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